Sometimes It's OK to Lose Jobs

by: Suzanne Reisman

Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 12:12:52 PM EDT


Generally, when I hear about jobs that are lost because a business closes or government cuts a program, I am bummed.  It's usually not a good thing for the loss of an entire industry to a region.  Sometimes, though, we should rejoice.  For example, the decrease in crime in New York City has led to a decreased need for prisons and juvenile detention facilities.  Who could not be happy about that?  Well, people in upstate New York, where small town economies rely entirely on incarcerating New York City residents.  This is perverse in many ways.
Suzanne Reisman :: Sometimes It's OK to Lose Jobs

Upstate legislators and union officials refuse to close empty facilities because they don't like the loss of jobs (prison guards, cooks, etc) in their region.  This has been an ongoing problem for years, but it has reached the breaking point because our budget gap provides glaring evidence of how wasteful this is.  (The moral implications are even worse because politicians and unions advocate for more severe forms of incarceration than necessary just so they can keep their jobs.)

Jim Dwyer wrote in The New York Times today about a juvenile detention facility in Goshen, NY.  The facility holds six boys.  To watch over these young men, a cadre of "11 cooks, 1 food manager, 6 keyboard specialists, 5 nurses, 1 motor mechanic, 7 teachers, 1 teaching assistant, 4 vocational instructors, 3 recreation specialists, 81 youth division aides and 2 calculations clerks" and one principal accounting clerk are employed.  It would be unfortunate for these 155 people to lose their jobs.  But the union says that they get one year notice before the state can even consider shutting the facility (which, incidentally, was cited last year for the brutal treatment of residents by the US Justice Department, which on second thought, makes me not sorry that these people will lose their jobs.)  Any words that are uttered about closing are met with intense resistance by politicians and union officials.

I didn't live in New York City when it went through its severe budget crisis.  However, I have heard many times about the heroic efforts of elected officials, unions, and corporations to band together to find real solutions to the problems.  I wish that people throughout the rest of New York state had that kind of moral courage.  The fact that we rely on criminal behavior to maintain our economy is disgusting.

 

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The union. (0.00 / 0)

I'll say only this.

It's not the union's fault - it's the lawmakers'. The union is doing one thing: advocating for the employees, in much the same way that each employee, if asked, would advocate to keep his or her own job.*  That's the union's job, that advocacy.

That the lawmakers are afraid of angering the union is on the lawmakers. They're elected to make tough decisions and piss people off. To be angry at the union would be like being mad at an employee for not being fired. Not really his decision.

(* Yes, I realize that unions are more powerful than individual employees. But then, that's why people organize into them.)



The union (0.00 / 0)

good post and good comment!

thanks!

mae



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In that case... (0.00 / 0)

The "just doing their jobs" excuse is rather lame.  It's not like people are unfairly trying to cut jobs that have a purpose.  It's not like there's a huge waiting list of people to get into juvy facilities and we're just shutting them down to save some money.  Unions are protect workers' rights.  No one has a right to a job that is only there to give people a job on the taxpayers' dimes, nickels, quarters, dollar bills, and Benjamins.  If we give the unions a pass for that reason, then we should not blame the heads of banks who are advocating against financial reform.  After all, they are only doing their job by looking out for their constituency's (CEOs, et al.) interests. 

Again, if the unions had that attitude in the '70s, NYC might not have made it through the crisis.  We're all in this fiscal mess together.  I'm willing to make concessions (like pay higher taxes), but others have to do their part, too.

Nice try, though.



Nice try, indeed! (0.00 / 0)

I never said the employees had a right to those jobs, just that the union was doing what it was there for. Would it be better for society if the union didn't advocate for these positions? Quite possibly. But the workers pay dues so that they advocate for the workers, not for us.

The financial reform argument is a false equivalence. If the union were arguing against the institutional factors that led to overstaffing unused institutions (which they might) I would disagree. But here, that's not what they're saying.

Unions in the 70s and recently have made concessions against the interest of the workers for the benefit of employers. Happens regularly. That this small group isn't doing so is lamentable - but I think you'd agree it's understandable.



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Still don't agree (0.00 / 0)

I took 48 hours to ponder your points, and I still don't agree.  I think the state is not violating the rights of the workers by closing an obsolete facility.  Advocacy for the workers should be to protect them from abuse or unfair labor practices.  If there were layoffs that left the remaining workers in situations where they could not perform their jobs reasonably, then that would make sense.  The union would be better off thining about how to find new employment for the people whose jobs happily became unnecessary.

I guess this comes down to what I think is reasonable for unions to do for their members.



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It is nice that you posted something like this ONDA VI20W and I am quite lucky to read it. Thanks for posting this!

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